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BellaДата: Понедельник, 21.10.2013, 18:25 | Сообщение # 31
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Всем доброго времени суток! Я с Украины. Я несколько недель назад зарегистрировалась на сайте aupair4you. И я хочу здесь поделится моим опытом , который меня очень шокировал, так как произошло это  в первый раз .  19 октября  2013 мне пришло письмо : 
Hello Au pair,

How are you doing, hope you are having a wonderful time and i hope this mail will find you in good health.

I am a British Lady and a single parent by name Kate Lockett, I am living and working in London UK.
My best friend recommended me to look for an Au pair who will take good care of Cherry my only daughter. My friend advised me to search for an Au pair through www.aupair4you.eu because she was very lucky to employ an Au pair whom she selected from the site and she suggested the Au pair site to me and advise me as well to try this experience because she is comfortably living with her Au pair, so i have decided to select you from the Au pair sitewww.aupair4you.eu believing that it is going to be a wonderful experience and to the best of Cherry's comfort and exchange of culture and knowledge as she grows.

I have my own house here in London so your accommodation will not be a problem, i am living comfortably with Cherry therefore all i want from my new Au pair is to take Cherry like a sister and take good care of her as well. I have a nice job because i'm working with a reputable company, so your benefits will never be a problem to me.

I hope i have made the right choice by selecting you, believing that you will not disappoint me. If you are interested and willing to join us as Cherry's Au pair then kindly get back to me, i will be so glad to receive your positive response.

Looking forward to hear from you soon.

Kind regards.

Kate.

Конечно , когда я получила такое письмо , я очень обрадовалась  и подумала какие  хорошие люди написали мне king  . И я ответила на это письмо .

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продолжение...
И я недолго ждала ответ на мое письмо. Вот что они мне ответили :
Hello ,

Hope this mail finds you in good health? 

I am pleased and over whelmed to receive your response. As i told you earlier i am a single parent living with Cherry my only daughter and i adore Cherish so much even my parents doesn't joke with Cherry, they communicate with me every day to know how Cherry is doing. My parents lives in Manchester while i live with Cherry in a house my father bought for me, located in KING STREET LONDON because i'm his only daughter and he loves me so much, he always wants me to visit them in Manchester always but due to my job engagement i do visit them ones in a while. My name is Kate Lockett with my daughter Cherry Lockett who is 2 years old, Cherry is a fun and a loving daughter, i cherish her and plays with her, i always do things that will make her happy and i have a small garden where i plays with Cherry. 

 All this while my good friend has been telling me to look for an Au pair to take care of Cherry so i decided to adhere to her advise and i believe it is going to be a wonderful experience, the period of your stay is not a problem to me, all i want is to testify this experience and know how it goes. I have informed my parents about this and they are very very happy, my mother said to me that it is a good idea and i'm so excited that they supported me  in this experience. I am doing all this just to make Cherry happy because she is my Angel and she is all i have for now therefore all i want from my new Au pair is to love and take good care of Cherry, my daughter is a lovely girl, she doesn't disturb, she is not suffering from any kind of sickness, she is in good health and i'm also in good health too.

 In my house i have a separate one bed room flat which is also located in my house therefore your accommodation would be a live in apartment and since i'm in contact with you i will start arranging the room to be in order before your arrival. Every week i will be given you £160 as your weekly pocket  money for your upkeep also i will take care of your meals and please if you have any need don't hesitate to tell me when i'm back from work if it is  a need i can solve then i will solve it. I have my own private car and i also i have a bicycle  it will not be necessary for you to drive because i have only one car and i normally drive it to work but my bicycle is always available, you can use it if you like but if you don't like ridding bicycle  there is no problem with that OK! i'm just telling you for you to know.

I believe with this few description of my family, you have had a little picture of my family, you will see things by yourself when you arrived because seeing is believing, i promise you that i will take you as part of us not only as an Au pair but as my sibling as well and in the same time i would appreciate if you can love, take good care of Cherry and take her as your little sister.

Please if you have any question just feel free to ask me, is just that i'm always busy but i will try my best to attend to you as soon as i can.

 Kindly get back to me as soon as you read this mail so that i will know your final decision and opinion.
  Cherry says Hi Hi Hi to you.
  Looking forward to hear from you.
  Kind regards.
    Kate.

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Меня очень удивило тот  факт , что я очень понравилась этой "Кейт"... , потому  что она не общалась со мной много и она видела только 1 маленькую фото на сайте ... Но все таки я выслала мои фотографии  и попросила , чтобы она мне прислала фото их семьи . И в 3 письме я получила 6 фотографий маленького размера и плохого качества. На фото были милые люди angel : так называемая Кейт , Ангел Черри ,  и бабушка с дедушкой. 
Hello ,

Hope you are having a wonderful time? 

I'm so delighted to hear from you once again and to receive your kind answers to my question. i'm so excited that our communication is becoming a fruitful one and i'm seriously interested to host you as Cherry's Au pair, you sound so polite and honest i love that. I called my parents today and informed them about you and the level of our communication and they were very happy, my father said to me that he will come personally to my house and welcome you upon your arrival and this is to tell you how important Cherry is to them. I'm happy that you enjoyed yourself doing your grandmother's birthday and i hope you enjoyed weekend as well.

This is my first experience to host an Au pair so i have made some necessary inquiries and i was informed that all the Au pair applicants who intends to work in the UK legally are expected to contact the Lawyer that works with the UK Home Office as a representative for Au pairs who intends to work in the UK, her name is Barr. Catherine Southgate her email address is  Barr-southgatecatherine@consultant.com  kindly contact her and tell her your interest and willingness to work with Kate Lockett as an Au pair to Cherry, tell her your full name, Nationality, Age, current location and some other necessary information that can help your application. As soon as you are in contact with her she will get back to you with all the details and requirements for Au pair job in the UK so that your name and application will be included in the list of Au pairs who will be coming to work as an Au pair in the UK, also this will help the UK Home Office to secure a mutual agreement between you and me as the host including your Work Permit Visa, National Insurance Number, Work Scheme Card and other supporting documents for Au pair job program in the UK.

I will advise you to contact the Lawyer immediately by sending her a mail through her email address which i have given you to enable her attend to your application without any delay. Please while contacting her kindly make sure that you will introduce yourself very well because she is the UK Home Office representative for Au pairs. Please you have to copy and paste the email address so that you will not do any mistake in her email address.
 Please you have to copy and paste the email address so that you will not do any mistake in her email address. The Lawyer will process all your necessary travel documents that will enable you to travel down here without having any immigration problem.

Your main duty is to take good care of Cherry, keeping her room tidy, making her bed, dusting and changing her sheets weekly, you need to do her ironing and keep her clothes clean and tidy, you will also be required to make her light meals, take her to the parks because Cherry likes visiting the park and most especially have FUN with her. My little angel will be so excited to have you around and she will definitely fall in love with you. 

Cherry goes to school from 10am  to 4pm which means that she stays 6 hours in school so all you need to do is to take her to school when it is 10am then come back and take care of your own needs and when it is 4pm you will be required to go and pick her up. If you are interested in the English class i have made some inquiries because there is a nearby English class that is very close to my house so if you are interested i will take you there and registered you upon your arrival then the cost will be paid by me, the English class last for just 2 hours from Monday to Friday. Your free days will be Saturdays and Sundays and you will be required to work for 25 hours per week. 
Considering the fact that i have taken you as Cherry's Au pair, i have some questions for you hoping to receive an urgent answer from you soon. 
blahblah blahblah

Always remember that i and Cherry really loves you so much.
Kisses from your little sister Cherry.

Kind regards.
Kate.

blahblah

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Не долго я ждала  и на следующий день я получила письмо  от адвоката с и-мейла barr-southgatecatherine@consultant.com 
My name is Barr. Catherine Southgate working with the UK Home Office as a representative for Au pair applicants here in the UK, we handle all he issues related to Au pair applications such as work permit visa, residential permit, work scheme card, supporting documents, National insurance Number etc. I wish to acknowledge the content of your mail which has been noted in the UK Home Office. Kate Lockett has already informed me about you and i have waited to receive your message to enable me attend to your application because Kate Lockett pleaded with me to take your application serious and i promise her to do so, but to enable me speedy up the processing of your travel documents depends on your total cooperation. We have contacted your host Kate Lockett regarding the requirements needed from her as the host and she promise to provide the amount because in the UK government your employer is responsible for your visa fees, flight ticket and other documentation fees which will cost her the total amount of £3,200GBP and she agreed to provide it first thing tomorrow morning because she informed UK Home Office that she really want you to join her as her daughter's Au pair. Your own responsibility as the applicant/immigrant  is to prove your financial stability of £650GBP through WESTERN UNION OR MONEY GRAM as your travel basic allowance which after you will get back to me with the scanned copy of the deposit receipt for verification and confirmation process in the UK Home Office. All the instructions is being stated in the attached documents therefore you are hereby advised to read carefully and follow instructions.  You are required to meet up with the requirements as soon as possible to enable us complete your application and your travel documents to the UK. Get back to me with all the needful requirements Asap.   Your urgent cooperation matters.  Working to serve you better.   Border Agency, 2 Marsham Street London, SW1P 4DFUnited Kingdom.Application: Barr-southgatecatherine@consultant.com(UK Home Office Aupair/Nanny Representative) и прислали мне 4 анкеты , которые я должна была заполнить  prof

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К сожалению я не знала , что по этой программе культурного обмена нельзя поехать в Великобританию .Поэтому я поверила этим людям , которые мне писали . Но мне показалось странным , что началась такая быстрая спешка по оформлению  всех документов и так далее... + фото были в плохом качестве , у меня сложилось впечатление , что их  просто скопировали с какого-то сайта. Все выглядело очень заманчиво  и все предлагаемые условия были очень даже отличными .  eek И в каждых письмах меня торопили с тем , что я должна выслать  документ  о переводе . Мне даже инструкцию выслали , где по 100 раз написано о том , что я должна переслать деньги через вестерн юнион. А именно :
Apart from sponsorship from UK Based Employers, workers in Social Service Category (i.e Au pair, Babysitter, Nanny) coming to live and work in the UK for at least 10 to 12 months are mandated to have a minimum of £650GBP, which is the stipulated financial requirement/basic applicant insurance allowance that must be in possession of the applicant/employee into the UK. You must be able to demonstrate that you have funds to support yourself. This is to certify that you can be responsible for your maintenance as mandated by UK Insurance policies to protect and secure Au pairs financially. The mandatory insurance allowance is £650GBP. National Insurance process is for the security and wellbeing of Au pair applicants and it is mandatory. Note: This is not a payment but a deposit to ensure that you can cater for your needs and support yourself once you arrive here before you receive your first salary from your Employer.
The UK Home Office would ensure via this means that only eligible Au pair applicants who are financially capable are allowed entry into the UK and must be completed to fulfill availability of funds in cases of Emergency and for full financial security of the applicant/worker before receipt of first month salary and benefits from Employers.

This process is solely for proof that you have the stipulated financial requirement as per an applicant seeking to enter the United Kingdom despite sponsorship from your Employer for your financial security and would take 24hrs for confirmation hence follow the detailed instructions for confirmation of Au pair applicants travel allowance below.
PROCEDURE: VERIFICATION/CONFIRMATION OF MANDATORY BASIC INSURANCE FUNDS
The following process has been adopted following the new-points based system to earn the needed points for issuance of National Insurance Number, Work Scheme Card and supporting documents. Bank statements were hitherto accepted, however due to falsification of bank statements which does not compulsorily certify/surety that the applicant would enter the Country with the mandatory insurance allowance/financial requirement, we no longer accept bank statements as final travel guarantee

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Important (As per Immigration policies, this process must be completed by your closed friend.
To meet the above requirement you and any of your closed friend is to make a deposit of the stipulated financial requirement of £650GBP to your name and address in the UK via Western Union or Money Gram agent as proof that you have secured funds to support yourself when you arrive here till you receive your first salary from your Employer:
METHOD TO BE USED WHILE MAKING THE DEPOSIT VIA WESTERN UNION OR MONEY GRAM:
SENDER: Any of your closed friend or family friend.
RECEIVER: Must be you the primary immigrant 
PAYOUT COUNTRY: United Kingdom
PAYOUT AMOUNT: £650GBP
Note: You must ensure that the sender is your closed friend and the receiver must be you  for the security of your funds and to enable you withdraw the fund back as soon as you arrive UK. After you have make the deposit kindly send us the scan copy of the deposit receipt for Verification and Confirmation process in the UK Home Office.
Your closed friend should Visit the nearest Western Union or Money Gram Office, close to him or her and make a deposit of £650GBP to your name as the receiver here in UK which is your insurance allowance following the transfer instructions above carefully for our verification and confirmation Process.
You will be the one to give the money to your friend so that he or she will send the money through Western Union or Money Gram for you as the Sender while your name will be the Receiver here in the UK.
Application Checklist: You are to send the following application requirements:

•Confirm Courier Address for Shipment of Hard Copies of your National Insurance Documents, Work Scheme Card, Residence Permit and supporting documents via courier within 28 hours you will received it.
•Scan the receipt of the deposit of your financial requirement including the Money Transfer Verification Number to enable our office performs Verification of the deposit. This is usually carried out within 24hrs.
•The filled work permit visa application form.
•The filled consent form.
•The signed contract agreement letter between you and Kate Lockett.
Note: Ensure that the sender will be any of your closed friend or family friend and the receiver of the £650GBP is you so that only you can withdraw the deposit after the verification of deposit has been carried out. This is not a payment but a deposit for verification which is why it is in your closed friend’s name as the sender and your name as the receiver and to also fulfill that you have funds to support yourself as it is the mandatory process for your financial security when you arrive here till you receive your first salary from your Employer which means that the money is still yours.

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The instructions above would earn you the needed points under the new point-based system for the release of your Work Permit Visa, National Insurance Number, Work Scheme Card, Residence Permit and supporting documents to legalize your work status here.
**Please note that your application will be rejected as invalid if you do not deposit the specified fund £650 via Western Union or Money Gram**
Cooperate with us to enable us serve you better.
Your safety is our priority.
 Вот такую инструкцию мне отправила  так называемая Barr Barr-southgatecatherine@consultant.com
Она утверждала, что должен отправить деньги на мое имя  другой человек с другой фамилией , чем моя фамилия. это должен быть друг семьи или мой друг. и деньги должны быть переведены в Великобританию.
Я поняла, что что-то здесь не так.... cranky
и я написала вопрос "этому адвокату" :

Good day!I'm ready to send the money tomorrow. And I'm interested in one question that needs to be explained. What's the difference between  that  I myself put money on deposit  for myself and that someone close friends send me the money via Western Union to deposit. 
 И мне скоро пришло письмо. В котором Я не увидела ответа на мой вопрос !
I wish to acknowledge the content of your mail.

You are not required to send the money by yourself, the UK Home Office has there own policy and you have to cooperate with us.
The UK Home Office wants to make sure that anyone else that has a different surname with you is aware of your travel and intention to work here in the UK that was why you were advise that any of your friend or family friend will be the sender or if your uncle or cousin has a different surname with you then he can as well be the sender while your name will be the receiver here in the UK.

Important Information: I don't think that Western Union offices do work on weekends so i don't know why you choose to do it tomorrow because i don't think it will possible.

Cooperate with us and we would work to serve you better.

Your safety is our priority.

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Я написала Кейт, что хочу поговорить с ней по скайпу,  и увидеть ее и маленькую Черри ( но на тот момент я прочитала уже в интернете  об этих мошенниках http://www.scamwarners.com , и даже нашла аналогичные письма, которые пришли мне shock shock shock ) Она ответила мне: 
Hello ,

Glad hearing from you once again.

I just want to inform you that i can't Skype with you at the moment, i'm having a serious problem with my Skype account and my Skype account is customized with my laptop so i need to return it to the company where i bought it so that they will rectify the problem but due to my job engagement i have not had the time to visit the company, this days i'm very busy in the office but because i have taken you as part of us, i always try to reply your mails as soon as i can.
Right now this issue of Skype is given me a very big problem.

Thank you for your understand.

Kind regards.

Kate.


И мне начали звонить на мобильный телефон. Говорила женщина. Английский был ужасный. я ничего не могла понять . Хотя я разговариваю на английском и понимаю иностранных людей. Но сначала я думала, что эта женщина с Англии , поэтому я не могу понимать . Но когда я заметила. что письма пишут с ошибками и отказались говорить по скайпу, типа какие-то существуют проблемы , то все стало ясно. facepalm :facepalm:  facepalm   Даже больше того , мне писали сообщения +447944024316. а звонили несколько раз с +2348064327164!! И как я узнала что +234 это телефонный код НИГЕРИИ!! help shock :help:

 
goaupairДата: Понедельник, 21.10.2013, 19:08 | Сообщение # 32
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К сожалению могу также констатировать... очень многие обращаются именно по таким вопросам. И вероятно не у всех хватает проницательности для того чтобы догадаться что имеют дело с мошенниками.  Процентов 99.99 семей из англии ( якобы семей) - мошенники, процентов 99 семей  ( якобы) из США на онлайн сервисах для о-пэр также мошенники. Я общался с одним из руководителем таких онлайн сервисов, женщина понимает и знает что у них регистрируются мошенники выдавая себя за семьи, по возможности с ними идет борьба... но на это нужно время, а на новую регистрацию мошенников на сайтах уходит  минуты.

Пожелание... не стесняйтесь, спрашивайте... так многие делают, но не все. Мы коммерческая организация, устраивающая о-пэр  17 лет в разные страны, но мы еще никому не отказали в консультации или помощи в таких ситуациях ... а нашего опыта достаточно чтобы быстро определить мошенник ли с вами общается или  реальная семья.
 
AladoriaДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 03:26 | Сообщение # 33
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всем привет. Почитала страницу и я в ужасе. Сейчас веду переписку с семье из США. Боюсь как бы не быть обманутой. Вот письмо которое мне написали,я сама нашла семью через сайт и первавя им написала.

Hi

Thanks for your interest in our family, am sorry for responding late, I believe you'll enjoy staying with us.

Max and I both work out of the house each day for work. Am a Nurse at the state Hospital, so I am with Patients and out of the house more often. Max is an construction Engineer and alwys Travel up and down. We are lucky that Kids school and activities are all within 15 minutes of our home. Vanessa is a wonderful kid, She mean the world to us, she is 6 years old respectively ,she is funny playful an intelligent kid,we enrolled her at School, but will likely go three mornings a week come February. she also do gymnastics, swims and loves to do arts and crafts at home, as well as visit the zoo, Children's museum, play centers, and the recreation center (that has an indoor pool year round, when our outdoor pool is closed

We live Los Angeles in California which has several historic districts, an art museum, a symphony orchestra, universities, city parks, and lakes. Music is everywhere here, from rising artists to famous musicians, singers, and songwriters and the Famous beach. The weather here is beautiful – mostly warm and sunny springs, hot summers, warm fall months, and a few cold winter months.
Our family style is mostly casual, warm and informal. We are excited to have someone from another country and culture, who speaks another language besides English, as part of our household,we enjoy being outside and barbecuing, cook on our outside grill and socialize with friends and also We belong to a recreation center/gym.

Your duty schedules mostly around the kids, get Her dressed for school, walk her down to the bus pick up point, help her with after school activities till we get back home, usually we are home before 5pm except special over times which you'll be duly compensated for. Weekend will be free for you because we get to spend time with the kids and maybe hang out or have friends over so you can go anywhere you want. We are somewhat flexible and can work out a schedule that suits our Au pair while covering our needs as well

You will be entitled to a pay of $1450 every month while you will also be given an entitlement of $100 every week for petty expenses which you might need for personally and we might review this when you arrival.
Our Au Pair's room is private with the best bathroom in the house and a sitting area, television, telephone, a PC with internet connection, and closet.We have had an Au pair before and its was good.

There are also several universities where many au pairs in the area take classes, as well as many opportunities to meet and socialize with other young people, we’ll be willing to help you get into any of those.

Let me know if you are ready to take up this position and probably get some more pictures from you with kids?

I will love to know how long you want to stay with us and if the salary is good by you?

And lastly do you have a valid passport and other necessary documents needed for Visa Application ? I believe I have a way out with the Visa.

Best Regards,
Sharon.

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То есть обычная переписка вроде бы,далее еще письмо

Hi ,

Thanks for your message am excited you like our family,I spoke with my husband and he agreed you can come over, so we are looking to make it bigger family by you joining us.Vanessa loved everything I told her about you so I'll want us to start preparations as soon as possible and get everything set because I believe the VISA processing takes some time.

About the Visa, flight and other traveling documents, I believe its best we get them through an agency because of our past experience from our neighbor: so I believe it's best to apply through them, they helped with our last Au pair and it was very fast, smooth so we also feel very secure patronizing them again. We want to make sure that you have a valid VISA and documents so that when you get to the US there wont be any hitch whatsoever.
Our friends had their first Au pair In the year 2010 from Finland that processed an invalid VISA more like a tourist VISA instead of a J1 VISA and was later caught some few weeks after staying with them which cost them so many Court cases, please in that case I hope you are okay with this security measure.

Concerning your Visa processing and all traveling expenses, I believe you know that our family must also pay some amount of money too, that means you will also be paying your own part of the total traveling expenses which is affordable I believe, but right now I cannot give you the current cost breakdown and processing details except you make contact.I want us to make progress without any delay so that you can join us soonest.

In regards to this, you will have to contact Mr James Clarke (The International Relations Officer) of the EurAupairInc Agency on this email: euraupair@representative.com for all details of the processing of your Visa, Work Permit,Medical Insurance, Flight Tickets and other traveling documents including the Total Cost,please tell him "Your name, Your Full contact address and your personal cell phone number with international dialing code, your country and how long you intend staying with us and when you will wanna start and that you have found your American Host family (Frei Family with ID CA070286 living in Los Angeles, USA)

Then Please kindly get back to me with whatever they tell you so that we can discuss better about the payment. I will be expecting your reply soonest. Make sure you contact them as soon as possible as we can't wait to have you here with us.
Merry Christmas And Happy New Year in Advance
Love Sharon.

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Вот ивсе мои письма  с семье,как понятно из второго письма они работают с
агенством  якобы
я отписала этому мужчине,на что он мне прислал сообщение.

Management wishes to thank you for contacting us regarding the arrangement of
your Traveling Documents to the United State of America. We promise to offer
you the best which you will be glad you did. The Agency is a U.S. State
Department-designated sponsor for an Au pair cultural exchange program. They
bring to their program more than 20 years of experience in cultural exchange
and hosting Au pairs with carefully screened American families. Our experience
in the travel industry has served our clients well over last several years. And
we are fully ASTA and ATOL protected travel agent which means your money is fully
guaranteed.

ATOL – which is short for “Air Travel Organizers' licensing” – exists to
protect the public from losing money or being stranded abroad because of the
failure of air travel firms. It was first introduced in 1972 and it gives
comprehensive consumer protection to 28 million people in the UK and USA who
buy flights or air holidays each year.

We have been told by one of our Host Families (Frei Family with family ID
CA070286 living in Los Angeles, California, USA) to contact you. As an official
Au pair placement agency designated by the United States Department of State,
Au Pair Care will sponsor your J-1 Au pair visa, organize your travel to and
from the United States, and provide you with training and support throughout
the year. We promise never to disappoint you as we have never failed in
fulfilling our promises.

We would request that you strictly download, print, read through, fill
carefully and send back to us via this email address scanned copy of the duly
filled forms attached to this mail, it contains all necessary information you
need in regards to the Total cost and the documents requested from you to
provide so that we can successfully process all your Travel document, Visa and
Flight Ticket(Round trip).

For the Cost and the Child Care Agreement Form for download, read and fill
carefully the attached PDF document file titled-Sharon Frei Au Pair Agreement
stated in this attached is the total cost of $1,434 as an Au pair.

For your EurAupair Application Form and list of required documents you will
have to provide, download read carefully and Fill the attached Word Document
file titled- EurAupair Application Form. We expect you to get back to us with
the filled forms not more than a week from now, so that we can schedule a
provisional flight ticket for you to confirm and inform you on how to make
payment.

Note: That we cannot proceed with if we do not receive the scanned copies of
the duly filled form, these forms enable us to register you with EurAupair
Program as an Au Pair and it also provide all necessary information that we
will require to process your Visa and other travel documents so once the
payment is made with a detailed submission of all the duly filled forms then we
can start processing of your Visa, Flight ticket and every other travel
documents.

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TERMS AND REGULATIONS

EurAupair, Inc. work in full term and condition with all international Visa
& Working Permit Agency for all travelers in Countries that are not in the
same country with the agency of their choice.

Which allow for the Following Terms and Regulations:

- All Document necessary must be valid and certified in the country of the
traveler

-The photo Page of the passport of all traveler must show the original
personality in physical.

- Visa charges and work permit fees must be paid directly to the Consulate of
the Country the traveler is going which is in affiliation with the Immigration
Department of the country the traveler is traveling from.

- All Customers Processing Visa of the country of their choice with Agencies in
the country of their choice must send along with other necessary document the
photo page of their Passport which will serve as evident of legibility at the
Consulate of their country of their choice in their location.

- All Customers Processing Visa of the country of their choice with Agencies in
the country of their choice must have a mailing address where all necessary
document which include letter of invitation to the country of their choice by
Consulate of the country, letter of invitation by their host family and Faxed
papers for Visa charges payment will be mailed to.

- Payment which was recently added in the advent of cyber-crimes disallow any
form of payment without cash therefore Bank check, Credit Cards, Money orders
are not accepted for payment for any service. In keeping these regulations
legible applicants who are not in the same location with the traveling agency
of the choice will only make payment via the host family, Bank transfer to our
agency representative.

Thanks for contacting us in anticipation of your response.

"At EurAupair we are interested in getting you to your destination in
style and comfort."

James L. Clark

Director of International Programs

EurAuPair, Inc.

333 South Grand Ave,

Suite 3000

Los Angeles, CA 90071

Main: (949) 484-8172

Direct: (814) 210-5514

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+он мне прислал 4 документа, мед справки,которые надозаполнить, договор с семьей,но то самое интересное программа получается намного
дороже чем берут российские агенства- 1434$,ну а с семьи там еще больше,на наши
рубли получается окло 45 тыщ рублей,не многовато ли? Пока переводить куда то
деньги не просят. НО семья испарилась с сайта,либо я просто не могу ее найти.
Подскажите не мошенничество ли это?Как определить?

 
goaupairДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 12:49 | Сообщение # 34
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Напишите с какого майла вам писала семья и с какого майла писало агентство
 
AladoriaДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 13:12 | Сообщение # 35
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sherryberry@inbox.com -это Шерон Фрей
EurAuPair@representative.com- а это представитель агенства
 
goaupairДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 13:14 | Сообщение # 36
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2 Aladoria напишите с каких майлов вам писали  семья и якобы агентство. это поможет разобраться с вашим вопросом. Пока... предварительно... слишком много разных нестыковок и все очень походе на действия мошенников. Тем не менее жду майлы, разберусь и вам напишу, конечно с аргументами, чтобы вам было все понятно.
 
goaupairДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 13:25 | Сообщение # 37
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sherryberry@inbox.com -это Шерон ФрейEurAuPair@representative.com- а это представитель агенства

почти на100 процентов это мошенники, лучше с ними не связываться, как и не связываться с поиском семей в сша через  интернет. В этом просто нет смысла. Правила определяют обязательное участие в устройстве лицензированного американского агентства. Именно оно ставит  стоимость программы которую вы должны заплатить... Вы ничего не экономите ища семью самостоятельно, но очень рискуете.  В чем смысл?  А если бы вы не дай бог не наткнулись на наш форум??? чем бы это все закончилось?

Итак... про нестыковки... а) ни одно уважающее себя агенство не будет делать ткой майл EurAuPair@representative.com   Это полный идиотизм... их майл будет таким: вася@euraupair.com  
это чаще всего встречающийся способ маскировки ... они маскируются под известное агентство, но не имея возможности доступа к их доменному имени ... пытаются всунуть название в майле где либо в другом месте. Как в вашем случае

продолжение следует...
 
goaupairДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 13:40 | Сообщение # 38
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телефон также странный, отсутствует в любых поисковиках, что в принципе не может быть при реально работающей фирме.
условия которые вам в начале предложили- значительно лучше стандартных для США,  что в принципе странно и чаще всего показывает что это не реальная семья, а мошенники, которые пытаются таким образом заманить в свои сети. ( семьи и  так много тратят для приглашения о-пэр и в процессе программы, смысл платить о-пэр больше на 500-600 долларов в месяц просто отсутствует, если участь что желающих для  участия в программе много и на стандартных условиях)
 
AladoriaДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 14:25 | Сообщение # 39
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Я вчера просматривала в гугле телефоны такие телефоны существуют вроде,и вроде даже в Лос Анжелесе. Я бы могла скинуть документы но тут никак их не прицепишь,там вроде все официально все как положено.Есть возможность показать вам доки?

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http://www.euraupair.com/offices.html разве это не их сайт?

 
goaupairДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 14:31 | Сообщение # 40
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http://www.euraupair.com/offices.html разве это не их сайт?
это сайт реального агентства,под которое маскируются мошенники. обратите внимание на их майлы... я писал про это выше. какие у них в контактах, а какой в вашем контакте якобы от их фирмы.

Я очень часто общался по такому вопросу с разными людьми в вашей ситуации, вы сейчас поступаете также как подавляющее большинство.... продолжаете верить что именно у вас реальная семья и реальные люди... Это других пытаются обмануть,но только не вас.
 
goaupairДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 14:32 | Сообщение # 41
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Я вчера просматривала в гугле телефоны такие телефоны существуют вроде,и вроде даже в Лос Анжелесе. Я бы могла скинуть документы но тут никак их не прицепишь,там вроде все официально все как положено.Есть возможность показать вам доки?

мой майл aupair@ck.ukrpack.net можете выслать туда документы... я вам потом в майле или на форуме дам по ним резюме.
 
AladoriaДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 14:41 | Сообщение # 42
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вы сейчас поступаете также как подавляющее большинство.... продолжаете верить что именно у вас реальная семья и реальные люди... Это других пытаются обмануть,но только не вас.
Нет,что вы,ничего подобного. Обманывают сейчас кругом. Просто если вы посмотрите документы и скажете ,что это действительно мошенники- я просто заблокирую их и все,чтобы больше не писали ничего. Для меня 50 тысяч рублей большая сумма и я не готова ее просто так кому то пожертвовать wink
Тогда вопрос 
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не связываться с поиском семей в сша через  интернет
Зачем эти сайты,где выставлено куча о-перов и куча семей?Там получается везде обман?
 
goaupairДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 14:49 | Сообщение # 43
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Зачем эти сайты,где выставлено куча о-перов и куча семей?Там получается везде обман?

Не совсем так...эти сайты реальные и стараются бороться с мошенниками по возможности ( видите как это у них плохо получается)... Устройство через них в какую то простую страну ( типа германии) вполне возможно и реально и там практически нет мошенников ( просто нет смысла им пастись по германии). Устройство именно в США просто безсмыслено, я написал выше почему. Это официальная гос программа в США, все правила устанавливаются госдепом, по ним работают реальные агентства. Такого типа сайты в этой работе просто не предусмотрены. Зачем рисковать, если за те же деньги, но официально можно спокойно и практически ничем не рискуя устроиться по правилам установленным правительством США.

Бланки получил, пару минут отпишусь
 
goaupairДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 15:00 | Сообщение # 44
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по бланкам... по моему мнению взяты возможно реальные бланки агентства и в фотошопе чуть доработаны. Эта фото с ребенком на бланке просто не нужна, а как под одним логотипом вставляют второй с "левыми"контактами... это вообще верх безвкусицы. не очень качественная подделка, тем более явно даже почерк фотошоповский похожий а то что я много раз видел. ( вставление в бланк не нужных картинок с сайта... ну и так далее)
 
AladoriaДата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 15:14 | Сообщение # 45
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спасибо большое,все очень понятно объяснили. А не посоветуете агенства (проверенные естественно),через которые все официально можно устроить,российские,желательно по месту жительства .я проживаю в пензе.
 
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